In an era where news can often blur the lines between fact and fiction, the story of the Minnesota assassinations has stirred significant controversy and intrigue. In her latest commentary, Liz Collin, a noteworthy figure in Minneapolis journalism, navigates the murky waters of these high-stakes allegations surrounding political figures and their implications for governance in the state. As inaccuracies and sensationalism threaten to cloud public perception, it’s crucial to dissect the claims made across various platforms, especially in the wake of statements made by influential commentators like Tucker Carlson. This post aims to provide a thorough examination of the assertions about the Minnesota assassinations and Tim Walz’s leadership, drawing upon Collin’s insights to uncover the truth behind the headlines.

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[00:00:00,000]: Five years ago this summer George Floyd a convicted felon OD’d on fentanyl outside a convenience store in Minneapolis and the country changed forever

[00:00:10,539]: Five years later Tim Walz is still the governor Keith Ellison is still the attorney general the cops who were falsely convicted of murdering George Floyd are mostly still in prison

[00:00:20,379]: But what happened in Minneapolis itself

[00:00:22,760]: Well it’s been wrecked and no one has said a word about it

[00:00:27,920]: Liz Collin is one of the only journalists remaining in the state of Minnesota and she gives us an update on the aftermath of the George Floyd revolution

[00:00:56,479]: Liz thank you

[00:00:58,340]: Media’s died across the country

[00:01:00,400]: Newspapers are going out of business

[00:01:02,200]: They’re useless

[00:01:03,299]: Local news basically gone

[00:01:05,139]: And the hope was always that there would be responsible people who cared about facts reporting on what’s happening at the state level and in cities

[00:01:14,540]: And in most places that’s not true but it is true in Minnesota thanks to you

[00:01:19,339]: So I’m just grateful that you’re filling that void because we need to know what’s happening

[00:01:24,500]: I want to start by because I think you’re an expert on it what is the truth about the assassinations in your state of a couple Democratic lawmakers

[00:01:34,699]: Like who’s the guy who like what is that

[00:01:37,059]: There’s lying around it

[00:01:38,779]: What’s the truth

[00:01:39,839]: Yeah sadly the chaos really continues in Minnesota

[00:01:43,760]: Appreciate you know you having me on and thank you for your kind words about our reporting that we do over at Alpha News

[00:01:51,860]: But this all starts on a Saturday

[00:01:54,279]: It’s Saturday June 14th two in the morning

[00:01:57,279]: And this shooting spree begins

[00:02:00,339]: Vance Belter is the man who is charged now with the assassination of Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark

[00:02:06,900]: But what we know is that he first arrives at Senator John Hoffman’s home the home he shares with his wife Yvette

[00:02:14,779]: Their adult daughter happens to be in town during this

[00:02:19,080]: And Belter is dressed as a police officer

[00:02:21,520]: He’s wearing also a latex mask

[00:02:24,139]: He has a flashlight arrives at their door saying police open up

[00:02:28,899]: He’s he’s shouting

[00:02:30,039]: It’s very chaotic

[00:02:31,419]: And basically this is two in the morning two in the morning

[00:02:34,000]: They open their door to him and he starts shooting

[00:02:39,380]: Senator Hoffman is hit multiple times

[00:02:41,960]: His wife hit multiple times

[00:02:44,940]: His daughter heroically calls 911 tells the police it’s Senator Hoffman that’s been been shot

[00:02:51,759]: And this in a way I think sends a message to the rest of the surrounding agencies that this could have something to do with legislators or perhaps people are being targeted to look for this person obviously

[00:03:04,279]: We know now that Belter stops at two more homes people who are not home legislators that are not home

[00:03:13,059]: At one point he encounters a police officer in New Hope

[00:03:17,740]: That officer actually approaches his vehicle

[00:03:21,020]: He is in a vehicle that looks like a squad car an SUV squad car

[00:03:25,179]: Goes so far as to outfit it with police lettering actually on the license plate

[00:03:32,320]: It says police on the license plate a light bar all the things you would look for in a squad

[00:03:38,259]: This New Hope officer rolls up next to him

[00:03:42,039]: He is looking straight ahead and does not acknowledge the officer at all

[00:03:47,160]: She then rolls her window up and continues on to this lawmaker’s home

[00:03:52,300]: So there’s some questions about you know how is he not apprehended in that moment

[00:03:57,360]: This is when he then continues to the former House Speaker DFL House Speaker Melissa Hortman’s home

[00:04:06,679]: And they’re at this point the police catch up to him the Brooklyn Park Police Department

[00:04:11,600]: They are doing a welfare check basically on the Hortman home saying you know she doesn’t live that far away

[00:04:16,299]: We should go to the Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman’s home

[00:04:21,320]: And they get there

[00:04:23,399]: Shots ring out but from what we understand between the police and Belter somehow Belter still gets inside the Hortman home

[00:04:33,000]: Mark is killed and then they find Melissa’s body inside the home as well later on

[00:04:39,320]: So the police are there for the shooting

[00:04:41,320]: They are

[00:04:43,000]: So how did he get away

[00:04:45,019]: Still a lot of questions about that

[00:04:47,299]: Like what

[00:04:48,440]: I’m sorry I didn’t know that

[00:04:50,160]: I didn’t get that

[00:04:50,799]: He goes out a back door from what we understand escapes on foot because he leaves his police cruiser there on scene

[00:04:57,859]: This is where they find out it’s Vance Belter

[00:05:00,000]: He has utility bills in this vehicle things that all trace back to him

[00:05:04,579]: And he gets back to an address that mysteriously he’d been renting for the last couple of years

[00:05:10,339]: It’s very strange

[00:05:12,100]: He shared his home with his wife and five children in Green Isle Minnesota which is about an hour outside of Minneapolis

[00:05:20,059]: But yet he was renting this room in Minneapolis where he would stay two or three nights a week from what we understand from the neighbors

[00:05:28,420]: And he’d show up at sometimes midnight leave at four or five in the morning

[00:05:33,100]: We’ve been able to look a lot at his social media and what he’s put out there

[00:05:36,980]: He was working at some funeral homes we understand and would keep these strange hours

[00:05:43,619]: But neighbors actually thought he was a detective

[00:05:45,700]: That’s what they thought of him

[00:05:46,720]: They thought it was strange that this guy would just show up a couple times a week

[00:05:49,380]: He was working at funeral homes

[00:05:51,100]: Right

[00:05:51,760]: Doing what

[00:05:52,640]: He said that he was doing kind of some just disposal of bodies

[00:05:59,440]: He would talk about openly in a little college course that we found a clip of

[00:06:04,100]: But what’s interesting is he ended his employment from what we understand from these funeral homes himself just more recently

[00:06:11,779]: It seems that there’s perhaps some financial trouble with all this

[00:06:15,820]: Before we get into him can you just play out the rest of the timeline

[00:06:19,119]: So he escapes through the back door somehow

[00:06:22,040]: The police are there when he shoots these two people to death but they don’t get him

[00:06:27,959]: He winds up where and how long does it take for them to find him

[00:06:31,839]: So he goes back to this Minneapolis address

[00:06:34,459]: How far is that from this

[00:06:36,200]: It’s a walk

[00:06:37,519]: I mean it’s going to take a little while to get there

[00:06:42,179]: Definitely five ten miles or so to that address

[00:06:46,000]: And we have this all on surveillance camera

[00:06:48,160]: We’ve been able to get some surveillance video from the neighbors who could see his last movements

[00:06:53,899]: He’s moving around some of his police cars

[00:06:55,799]: At one point a bike appears out of the shed

[00:06:57,820]: It’s all very strange

[00:06:58,700]: But then he walks to a nearby bus stop

[00:07:00,799]: And again according to the charging document this is where he meets a stranger

[00:07:05,160]: He wants to buy an e bike off of this guy who then offers and says I actually have a car for sale too

[00:07:11,019]: It breaks down a bit

[00:07:12,399]: But he buys the e bike and this black Buick from this stranger at the bus stop for 900

[00:07:20,019]: This man actually drives him to the bank where he empties his 2 200 he has in his bank account

[00:07:26,079]: This is when the FBI releases surveillance video of him wearing a cowboy hat

[00:07:31,000]: This is the last picture basically the picture they’re releasing to the public to find this guy that morning

[00:07:36,260]: But this then leads to the largest manhunt in Minnesota history to find him

[00:07:41,779]: He ends up we know now he’d been texting his wife

[00:07:45,500]: He said something along the lines of dad went to war last night

[00:07:49,899]: And also something about not wanting the kids to be on the property because there’s going to be some people that are trigger happy that could be there soon

[00:07:58,320]: So that seemed to be an indication he was going back to their home

[00:08:00,820]: He calls himself dad in his text with his wife

[00:08:03,420]: Right

[00:08:03,839]: Yeah that’s freaky

[00:08:05,359]: Yeah

[00:08:05,839]: And then it sounds like he went back to that address to get money

[00:08:11,519]: There was a large amount of money that was left at the home

[00:08:15,079]: Ultimately though the

[00:08:15,739]: The one that he was renting

[00:08:16,459]: The actual home that he shared with his wife and children in Green Isle

[00:08:21,059]: So he drives back there

[00:08:23,339]: And then where does he go

[00:08:24,760]: He’s actually found in a field not far from that home at all

[00:08:29,059]: At this point police had set up around his home

[00:08:31,720]: It was pretty obvious he wasn’t going to be getting into his house to get this cash

[00:08:35,979]: His wife at one point is pulled over shortly after

[00:08:40,719]: She leaves the property

[00:08:44,419]: And she’s found a couple hours from their home with guns their passports and about 10 000 in cash

[00:08:53,619]: Where are the kids

[00:08:53,840]: In their vehicle

[00:08:55,380]: Three children are with her

[00:08:57,219]: Some of them are

[00:08:57,960]: A couple of them are older kids

[00:09:00,900]: And it turns out from some of the reporting that’s been done now they called themselves preppers

[00:09:07,340]: They had kind of a plan

[00:09:08,700]: It’s unclear if the wife knew of what he did at this point

[00:09:15,739]: She has not been charged correct

[00:09:18,859]: Wow this is an even weirder story than I realized

[00:09:22,260]: Okay so who is he

[00:09:23,880]: What do we know about the man who has been charged with these murders

[00:09:27,679]: Yeah this is what’s interesting

[00:09:29,580]: He grew up in a small town in Minnesota in Sleepy Eye

[00:09:34,239]: His dad was a standout baseball star a longtime baseball

[00:09:40,039]: So great

[00:09:41,559]: I love this country

[00:09:43,859]: And a lot of people have described him to us as a devout Christian

[00:09:50,260]: I don’t think you’re a Christian if you’re capable of this clearly

[00:09:54,919]: It’s interesting how the media you see this happening with this story automatically takes their corners

[00:10:00,679]: You have some friend of his that says he’s a Trump supporter

[00:10:04,080]: So this is how the story is painted that this lunatic Trump supporter goes on this rampage

[00:10:10,659]: But there’s clearly so much more to this

[00:10:14,979]: And that’s what bothers me with the media

[00:10:16,940]: Nobody’s willing to really ask these questions

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[00:11:21,700]: What is that

[00:11:22,599]: What are we looking at here

[00:11:23,599]: This is bizarre

[00:11:25,080]: Father of five prepper from Sleepy Eye Minnesota all of a sudden winds up wearing a latex mask and like a fake police car and murdering people

[00:11:36,239]: And then the police don’t arrest him somehow at the shooting

[00:11:39,500]: I mean the whole thing

[00:11:40,280]: But what do we know about him

[00:11:41,599]: So he has also a hit list in his vehicle literally called a hit list a handwritten hit list

[00:11:49,619]: It says hit list on it

[00:11:49,820]: It does

[00:11:50,260]: And there are 60 names of different lawmakers

[00:11:56,179]: Is he worried that he might forget what the list is

[00:11:57,599]: There’s all kinds of notebooks with all kinds of things in them from what we understand

[00:12:01,299]: We did obtain this hit list that went out to law enforcement because obviously they were protecting all of these legislators trying to figure out where this guy was because this manhunt goes on for 43 hours before he just surrenders in a field puts his hands up in the air and basically walks toward law enforcement and says I’m I’m Vance Belter

[00:12:21,479]: But this hit list these are all Democrats on the list

[00:12:25,140]: There’s a couple abortion clinics Planned Parenthood’s that are on there

[00:12:28,780]: So people have said this is some sort of pro life thing

[00:12:32,859]: But also interestingly enough he has a confession letter

[00:12:37,119]: This is what I would call it

[00:12:38,539]: It’s a letter made out to the FBI to Kash Patel that says that Governor Tim Walz made him do this

[00:12:47,900]: He says that he made him do it because he wanted Senator Amy Klobuchar to be killed and Walz then to take that Senate seat which again makes no sense to any sane person

[00:13:01,719]: But these are all part of the pieces

[00:13:05,179]: Was Amy Klobuchar on the list

[00:13:06,380]: What’s interesting is Walz is not on the list

[00:13:11,640]: Klobuchar is on the list

[00:13:14,900]: There’s somebody who has passed away that’s on the list

[00:13:18,840]: Some people who are not holding office anymore that are on the list

[00:13:23,820]: So the list is a little strange in and of itself

[00:13:27,940]: What did he spend his life doing

[00:13:29,739]: Like what’s his history

[00:13:31,020]: This guy’s in his 50s

[00:13:32,840]: 57

[00:13:34,239]: Not a typical profile

[00:13:36,099]: No

[00:13:37,159]: Of a serial killer

[00:13:38,559]: Right

[00:13:39,859]: That’s where it seems that there seems to be some financial issues

[00:13:44,400]: We know that he spent some time in the Congo

[00:13:47,659]: He talks about that

[00:13:49,880]: In Congo

[00:13:50,719]: Yes

[00:13:51,580]: A lot of people from Sleepy Eye Minnesota are just kind of hanging in the Congo

[00:13:54,539]: Right

[00:13:54,820]: He was doing some mission trips there

[00:13:58,539]: But there are also some nonprofits that he would start but they had no customer base

[00:14:04,460]: There was a couple security businesses that didn’t have actual customers

[00:14:09,299]: His wife was listed on a website linked to a security business

[00:14:13,619]: We know of this funeral homework that was going on

[00:14:16,780]: Did he have a career

[00:14:17,599]: I mean did he spend

[00:14:18,919]: He was in the again according to his LinkedIn profile that is now down but did decades in the food service industry

[00:14:26,520]: He was a general manager at a 7 Eleven

[00:14:28,840]: That was listed as well

[00:14:31,260]: But from my law enforcement sources it sounds like just a lot of this was just made up almost like there was this double life that was being lived

[00:14:41,080]: But at some point he moves out part time from his wife and five children to live in an apartment with a roommate

[00:14:49,020]: I mean what is that

[00:14:51,919]: The way his roommate described it he was working at these funeral homes and would keep kind of odd hours

[00:14:59,099]: And so Minneapolis would be closer to where these would be located

[00:15:04,299]: But what’s interesting is even in his last movements that have been tracked by the neighbors everybody has these great security cameras nowadays and they’re kind of doing the detective work themselves over in that neighborhood as well

[00:15:17,700]: But you can see him coming in with some plastic bags

[00:15:22,619]: We know now he had bought some supplies at Fleet Farm just leading up to these attacks

[00:15:27,159]: He’s walking out with his notepads

[00:15:29,559]: From what law enforcement has said he was doing a lot of writing a lot of ramblings as they’ve described them

[00:15:36,880]: At first they said there was this manifesto

[00:15:39,380]: They kind of backed off on that and said it’s more of this hit list nothing that seems to really make much sense as far as a motive is concerned at this point

[00:15:47,559]: But for some reason he did surrender to law enforcement and it seems in a way he wants to tell his story

[00:15:58,440]: Wow

[00:15:59,140]: Is there any evidence that he had contact with law enforcement before this at any level

[00:16:04,460]: Actually no

[00:16:04,979]: No criminal record nothing

[00:16:06,659]: Did he have any connection to the government at all that we know of

[00:16:09,859]: Well this is what’s interesting

[00:16:10,880]: Also in that confession letter he talks about he is trained by the military

[00:16:15,539]: He says that he’s and this is what was on the website as well that he did security in Eastern Europe Africa and the Middle East

[00:16:25,039]: It says on his website

[00:16:28,159]: But at this point just still so many questions about what is actually even true

[00:16:34,039]: What do you think

[00:16:36,239]: You know it’s been difficult because in Minnesota you just keep saying that these kind of things don’t happen and then they do

[00:16:46,359]: And so much of this has happened

[00:16:49,219]: We’ve kind of been dubbed this capital of chaos these last five or six years and it’s pretty disheartening

[00:16:58,119]: You try to approach everything as a reporter and gather as many facts but you’re like how have we now come to report on political assassinations in Minnesota

[00:17:06,959]: Yeah I’m not surprised given what’s happened in the last five years

[00:17:11,339]: But I just wonder about this story in particular

[00:17:15,339]: Did he have contact with Walz

[00:17:17,060]: Do we know that Walz ever as Walz said I met this guy ever

[00:17:21,479]: Well this is what’s interesting

[00:17:22,520]: We know that he served on a board appointed by Walz

[00:17:29,180]: However I’ll say that— What kind of board was that

[00:17:32,000]: It was a workforce development board

[00:17:35,099]: They have I think more than 100 of these boards in Minnesota

[00:17:38,219]: Most of them are voluntary boards

[00:17:40,160]: So he was appointed to that board by Governor Mark Dayton a Democrat and reappointed by Walz

[00:17:48,160]: That expired in 2023

[00:17:50,199]: So it is unclear if they ever knew each other

[00:17:54,479]: Interesting Senator Hoffman and Vance Belter were on the same board together so you would think that they somehow knew each other

[00:18:05,619]: How did a 7 Eleven manager slash mortuary remains disposal guy wind up on a governor appointed board in the state

[00:18:15,199]: Also a good question

[00:18:17,140]: It’s a little weird right

[00:18:18,880]: Yeah

[00:18:19,699]: Yeah there’s just so many things in his background that don’t seem to make much sense

[00:18:24,020]: And also just he had several properties in his name seven cars

[00:18:29,619]: He’s asking for a public defender because he has no money

[00:18:31,819]: He just paid more than 500 000 for his home in Green Isle a couple of years ago

[00:18:38,739]: So where’s the money coming from

[00:18:40,599]: I think there are questions about that as well

[00:18:43,099]: From the body disposal business

[00:18:45,880]: And this guy is renting an apartment to take a job hours from his 500 000 home

[00:18:54,199]: That cannot be a high paying job

[00:18:55,839]: I don’t know what mortuaries pay to disposal bodies but it can’t be a lot

[00:19:00,780]: Yeah law enforcement seems to think that he’d been plotting something for a long time

[00:19:05,560]: What was the final you know I don’t know

[00:19:09,939]: Okay so nothing about this makes sense at all

[00:19:12,500]: Correct

[00:19:12,760]: So there’s been a ton of speculation that he like a number of other people high profile murderers in the last 50 years may have been like not at all what he seemed to be

[00:19:28,459]: This is like some sort of operation designed to discredit you know the enemies of the people who designed it

[00:19:35,540]: Do you think there’s any I mean is it worth pulling on those threads

[00:19:39,699]: Oh I think it’s worth it and that’s what we’ve been doing

[00:19:45,380]: It just seems that you know even talking to profilers through this they really maybe there is something more because none of this actually makes sense or adds up to become that radicalized you know what actually happened

[00:20:03,880]: But it’s a story you know we’re obviously staying on

[00:20:07,400]: Yeah maybe we’ll wind up like the Vegas shooting where it doesn’t make sense at all and no one wants to talk about it and we just kind of forget about it

[00:20:14,223]: you know biggest mass shooting in American history that like no one mentions ever but clearly it’s not

[00:20:20,383]: And you’ve already seen that with the media in Minnesota it’s okay he’s a Trump supporter we this is why he did it and that’s it I mean it’s just absolutely insane what has happened to the media no curiosity no common sense it’s really disgusting and no wonder the public is not informed especially in in Minnesota

[00:20:38,843]: Yeah and this story is just inherently bizarre so you’ve you’re from the state you’ve worked in media there you were one of the highest rated anchors in the state you’ve made a couple references to the media it might be worth reminding people what happened if you could just give us a short tour of your work history how did you lose your job in television in Minnesota

[00:20:59,863]: Yeah so I worked at WCCO a longtime anchor and investigative reporter there my family was caught up in the George Floyd fallout my husband a long time

[00:21:12,483]: You murdered George Floyd

[00:21:13,803]: No I did not despite what the media may tell you but they yeah so many people were canceled in the wake of all of that and I was one of them my husband longtime Minneapolis police officer he was serving as the Union president at the time he came out with a few sentences that basically said we’d like the body camera footage we’re awaiting that let’s not rush to judgment with all of this and you know we’re backing these police officers until we you know no more he did what a Union president I think probably is supposed to do

[00:21:50,143]: I hope any American citizen would take that same position we’re not gonna send people to prison unless we know they’re guilty

[00:21:55,743]: And then it was just like that you’re probably pretty sick in Nike it’s hard to blame you for feeling that way any company that worships Colin Kaepernick any company that shills for the lunacy of the left social agenda is clearly not on your side in fact they’re your enemy you need an alternative XXXY athletics is the far better choice it’s the only athletic brand committed to fighting for free speech women’s sports and the truth honesty the truth they’re not gonna lie to you for example did you know that 80 of Americans oppose letting men play in women’s sports that’s not a radical view it’s a moderate sensible view rooted in biology the woke corporations like Nike make you feel like a lunatic for saying obvious things like men are men and women are women that is tyranny how can you fight back by abandoning the companies promoting it and by embracing companies like XXXY athletics it’s an American company it’s not opposed to the states or to telling the truth head to the truth fits calm to learn a lot more and use the code Tucker 25 for 25 off so your husband said as the FOP president you know let’s just find out exactly what happened before we decide we know what happened and then what happened when he said that he had to lose his job I had to lose my job job for the mob came after us I mean he had been planning at that point to retire around this time anyway but yeah the mob came out in full attack I never anchored a newscast at WCCO ever again what what did you have to do with it I’m still not exactly sure but that’s fear is a powerful thing I think especially in in Minnesota well let’s let’s unpack this okay so your husband had to leave after 32 years as a police officer because he said let’s wait for the evidence before deciding okay I can see that happening in the hysteria and the race mobs that formed after George Floyd Odita and Fennell but what do you how are you why would you be punished for that yeah it was ridiculous I finished out my contract and then eventually left but I why were you not allowed to do newscasts after you know at first I understood that I obviously can’t report on this story there’s a conflict of interest and I never had I’d never reported on police union issues in in Minneapolis I mean we’ve been married for a few years by the time this even happened but all of a sudden it became like we were in this hidden marriage as if I was supposed to start every newscast by talking about who my husband is I mean can you imagine in this world why this even matters but then it appeared my name started appearing you know every story that I did no matter what it would be and just a reminder Liz Collin is married to Bob Kroll I mean literally this would be printed in in stories on the on our website and I was like this is you know this is just completely absolutely insane well your employer put that yes it was this disclaimer because they felt like they needed to you know the public needed to know this because of everything that had transpired so the station without asking you kept doing this right this is a CBS station I mean I don’t think I think you can watch any CBS station and realize what is going on that owns those places CBS oh it’s an operator yes okay so how did they tell you you’re no longer allowed to do your job because of who your husband is well at first it just drags on for weeks weeks turned to months and but they yes I was still allowed to report on a few things but I was no longer allowed to report on state government city government anything to do with policing I would have to get permission before I would even be able to call someone in law enforcement I mean this has been my career I mean I have a lot of good sources and I’ve reported on a lot of these issues long before I was even married to Bob but all of a sudden everything became you know an issue and I will say that my husband appeared on stage with President Trump this was back in 2019 when he was running for re election and that really became an issue with the station as well that your husband like Trump correct yeah I can’t can’t have an anchor whose husband likes right right okay that’s a really sick country Wow so then you said the mob came what does that mean what really just means the mob came they they showed up to the station they held a they held a protest demanding that I be fired for being married to a cop right yes and then they showed up at our home four different times we had protests that summer of 2020 home yes one sponsored by Black Lives Matter they showed up with pinata effigies of myself and my husband and beat us in our driveway welcome to South Africa that’s crazy yeah and you’re a child at home we were not home that that weekend but yes my actually my child discovered this on YouTube years after it happened I thought I would keep it from him but you can’t do that I guess in this digital world we shoot them I think that’s why I made sure my husband left town yeah that’s such a threatening act I’m against shooting people in general but I think I would shoot somebody did that because I would feel so threatening your home yeah I’ve never felt so violated but before I consider myself a pretty strong person but it took me even a long time to even walk in the front lawn again just thinking they took a knee around our flag our American flag if you were black you were allowed to kneel in our front yard and if you’re white you had to look on as they were shouting I mean they literally brought a bullhorn they were shouting swear words at our neighborhood kids threatening to burn the city down where we lived and no one shot them it’s so weird how passive people are like you couldn’t get away with that 50 years ago you couldn’t do that many cities have now passed ordinances in Minnesota saying if you don’t pull a permit to protest we’re going to arrest all of you because nobody was arrested nothing happened that day and your husband was a cop mm hmm and his fellow cops didn’t nobody did anything well they wanted to show up also but you know I don’t that we also have to recognize with these groups this is what they want they want confrontation they want lawsuits this is what they want maybe if someone smacked him in the face once in a while they’d be a little more respectful I mean I just think if you allow that kind of behavior you’re gonna get more of it right well and I actually think this is what has happened in Minnesota these political disagreements have turned into these political attacks and people have allowed this to happen well I completely agree it’s passive Scandinavians I know them well I hate them sorry excuse me I’m one of you are and you know rape my wife I mean they’re really it’s a sickness in their brains but it’s that’s just so sad so and they came back more than once this mom yeah this was the largest I mean it was more than a hundred people paid people paid to you know to be there that that day they had lunch provided I mean this is just completely insane what do you think well black lives matter was involved you could and this is what I thought was interesting as a reporter so keep in mind I was still working at WCCO at the time but I called my news director and I said the man leading this protest he’s running to be a state rep and he’s endorsed by walls and the Democratic Party I think that we should probably cover this is a story on this yes I’m sorry I saw the protest on this is all coming back to me yes it was that guy elected state rep he was elected and I called my news director and I said I think this is newsworthy you will I believe what happened and I was told that was a racist to that yes but I was told that that phone call showed my bias how dare I how dare I think that that’s a news story you’re so biased they said that to you at the station mm hmm and so it would be days before they actually even reported on the on the protest before they had no choice but at their own employees house correct a guy running for statehouse saying racist anti white things I remember this now we forgot this mm hmm that was you that was me mm hmm I’m so sorry it’s so hateful um so how long were you at the station after that so I finished my contract a couple of years not not even quite and then I had kind of as a therapy worked on my book called they’re lying the media the left and the death of George Floyd which is a bit about my personal story and so much of the truth that just never stood a chance with all of this and I left I went into independent media I didn’t want to lie anymore I was disgusted with what the media had turned how long were you at the station nearly 14 years Wow so what about all the people you when you work in a place you like you know you know your supervisor you know all the vice presidents and the gut the station manager the HR people did did anyone ever say gosh we’re really mistreating you or sorry been here 14 years and were anyone who was any human yeah I think at all yeah I still have you know still have some friends but I think that’s really in life where they knew the professional I was they knew that the work that I had done and and that hurt you know for the people that you know I kind of needed to stick up for me in that moment and they and they didn’t but it’s also a bit of a relief knowing that that’s why I when I left I I was ready I was you know I knew that I could it was time to listen to that little voice inside of me and I’d been praying about it for a long time and and just knew that there were things that I really had had to do it was a matter of station goes bankrupt is it still there I don’t think they’re doing so well but I think that’s local media in in general since we launched out we’ve had four flavors but we are proud to announce Alp has a brand new flavor one of several will be rolling out over the next year or so and it is sweet nectar I have personally tested this product two at a time and it’s excellent sweet nectar the new flavor out from Alp really really good you can order it in the pallet if you want I have strongly recommended sweet nectar stay tuned for more but to abandon your longtime employee because the mob demands it is like maybe the lowest thing I can think of you know it was crazy because I grew up watching that station I mean literally it was the dream job when I finally landed it when I worked in all these crappy markets you know who lived in crappy places but I you know I loved the news because I always felt like I’m you know I’m just gonna do whatever it takes to get back home to be able to broadcast you know my hometown and whatnot as goofy as that sounds doesn’t sound goofy it sounds great but actually and then it it happened and just kind of but you know it’s not even even before George Floyd you could see what the media was was turning into and that really bothered me on a moral and ethical level more than anything else just not so much what we would tell the public anymore but what we would not how we would craft a story I talk a lot about this in the book but there were mandates after George Floyd that half of the people we interviewed had to be non white or from a protected class in the wake of those mandates that from from what I understand CBS News you could not use the term riots at all in your reporting actually right just the way we would control the language and WCCO correct wait I can’t when they do go bankrupt will you text me just so I can celebrate I really hope that they go under soon that’s so dishonest yeah it hasn’t it’s actually only gotten worse I think with a lot of things that have that have transpired but again I’m I can relate you’re a positive person it’s just I think it’s important to know because the net effect was the death of a lot of people the total destruction of a great American city yeah it was just pure evil in the end black people didn’t benefit white people didn’t I mean no one benefited really and it just bothers me that it’s been memory hold and that no one responsible for the killing and the destruction has ever been held accountable mm hmm okay since you wrote a book on it um and it’s been five years can we just assess what the what was the George Floyd thing do you think having looked into it more than maybe any other person like what’s what’s yours like how did how did George Floyd die what was that how did why did that instantly become a revolution that wrecked my country and what was that you could definitely tell I mean Minnesota we really had the perfect players in place again we have governor Tim Walz we have Attorney General Keith Ellison Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry this was an election year that had so much to do with with it and you could see these things were happening around the country you know just looking to spark chaos and in Minneapolis they they had the recipe and I saw the manipulation day one they were not they did not release the body camera video I say it’s a it was one of the whitest cities in America along with Portland and Seattle yeah that’s true yes early yeah so that is another factor it’s the you know this didn’t happen in Miami because Hispanics don’t hate themselves but the whites do this is just my editorializing it’s just the demographics played a role in this it was the it was the whitest cities that went the craziest but you have this as they frame it this white police officer you know kneeling on the neck of a black man the optics were there however the body camera video shows a much different story and if they would have released this I just don’t even think we’d be here having this evidence that George Floyd was was suffocated by Derek Chauvin no there is much more evidence to support that that in fact had nothing to do with it you have George Floyd talking about how he can’t breathe before Derek Chauvin right arrives on scene you have a black police officer who arrested George Floyd in Alex King who was on the job for three days off of his field training nobody talks about Alex King what happened to him he just got out of prison he’s a prison he’s one of the the four police officers put in in prison but nobody knows about they think this is just a white cop black suspect I didn’t know that and this is the story the media told and it’s just bottom line is there actual evidence that Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd I would say the answer is no there’s no strangulation marks there’s no bruising on his neck why didn’t they release the autopsy which was done within 12 hours of him dying to the public that showed all of this he had an enlarged heart he died of a heart attack the first words on his autopsy are just that cardiopulmonary arrest is his cause of death did not die of suffocation no so why is Derek Chauvin still in jail why did officer King go to jail is there anyone else in jail for this still Thomas Lane was released also and to Tao was still in prison to Tao was given an extra year on his sentence because the judge in this case judge Peter Cahill did not like how he was reciting Bible verses during his sentencing and gave him an extra year but the real threat is Iran Wow that’s so offensive it’s hard you still live there I do yeah so how did if there’s no evidence that he murdered George Floyd why was I at Fox scolded for saying that he didn’t murder George Floyd which I was by the way I said George Floyd seemed like he died of a drug OD because that’s what the autopsy seemed to say why is that not widely known why does nobody even now five years later people have to like oh he was killed by white and all these try not to use the effort but all these Republican officeholders like no he was murdered by a you know what I mean wake up yeah that’s not true yeah it isn’t and there’s there’s a reason race never even came up in Derek Chauvin’s trial there’s no evidence of race having anything to do with anything and that’s why I put the book out and it was released in in 2022 right before I wanted it out before the election for walls and Ellison sadly didn’t work but but then we it led to the documentary called the fall of Minneapolis and we tried to really bring out the the truth that nobody heard in this case in that documentary and more than 10 million people have seen it all around the world which is amazing considering it was just kind of this little this little documentary but it also I think proves that the truth still matters I just wish somebody would do something about it so is this is there anyone else in Minneapolis saying this no it’s actually interesting they then paint me of course I’m a right wing conspiracy theorist that’s how I’m referred to I’m just a person for bringing out these facts I mean again I think it’s 237 citations I have in my book this is all I’m a journalist this is what I’ve done for 20 years what’s the counter argument is wake up okay so everyone stands up Nikki Haley and Jeb Bush and all they don’t all these people probably the majority of the Republican senators who are serving five years ago said this you know black man murdered by a white cop on what evidence are they pointing to to prove that and how did he get convicted of it well the trial in and of itself is really quite quite something you have the police training the maximal restraint technique that the office was reusing that day that was not allowed in trial judge Cahill did not allow that in Chauvin’s trial what that is so interestingly enough these two pages of the manual go offline two days after the incident they disappear the MRT and you can hear in the body camera footage which again the public is not allowed to see until many months later and I to this day most people have never taken the time to watch the video of course and the officers are talking about the MRT Thomas Lane says let’s just MRE he means MRT they all are working together in this moment knowing what the MRT is why then do you have the mayor he comes out about 24 hours later and says and by the way this is a technique not trained by the MPD this is Jacob Fry correct who was he is he from Minneapolis no from Virginia he was brought to Minneapolis to run for City Council and then the mayor good question he’s not he has nothing to do with Minneapolis at all anyone’s up no becoming mayor and in many ways destroying Minneapolis is he still there he’s still there mm hmm she’s still the mayor he’s still the mayor why isn’t he in prison you know I have gone to him for more interview requests at this point that I can count at one point I just started chasing him around one morning to try to get him to answer questions it’s kind of funny that somebody would be literally running away from me but that’s what he did but I just my question is why are you like why have you been lying about all this because we saw this again this five years later these stories are just so over the top and nobody is telling the truth about it even five years later it’s almost as if you just continue to repeat this lie you know enough to believe it the mayor Jacob Fry who’s not from Minneapolis was brought in and somehow becomes mayor and then wrecks the city that he’s not from didn’t build um he says in public shortly after the death that the restraint technique the police officers used on George Floyd was not taught to them correct and that’s not true yeah these pages go missing of the manual which which explained the technique and exactly and I said into my newsroom at the time this is really quite something they are trying to cover this up we should really be doing a And I’m the crazy person

[00:43:40,343]: What did they say

[00:43:41,223]: It was just like you have to go along with this narrative

[00:43:44,843]: This is the narrative of the moment and we are going to push it on the public

[00:43:49,083]: We even had reporters using Black Lives Matter as hashtags in their reporting

[00:43:54,243]: Not really

[00:43:55,023]: Really

[00:43:55,363]: And that was allowed

[00:43:56,803]: And I said well here’s their website and this is a political organization

[00:44:00,443]: Why would we allow this ever

[00:44:05,563]: But again I’m the crazy conservative I guess in the newsroom at this point

[00:44:11,403]: That was the corner I was cast in

[00:44:13,763]: And I should just shut up

[00:44:17,603]: I guess this is why I’ve forgotten so many details because they’re just horrifying

[00:44:21,483]: So the public doesn’t get to know that the restraint technique that the police officers not just Derek Chauvin but the other three used against this berserk drug addicted convicted felon that that was a technique that they learned at the police academy and that was

[00:44:37,003]: Trained for decades

[00:44:38,083]: Trained for decades

[00:44:39,043]: Yeah it’s been around for

[00:44:40,083]: We found manuals with the MRT in the 90s

[00:44:44,163]: I mean we did a lot of research

[00:44:45,663]: Did they apply it correctly

[00:44:46,683]: Did they do what they were taught to do

[00:44:48,463]: It’s actually in there to wait to hold and wait for EMS

[00:44:53,683]: This is also something else that was never talked about

[00:44:57,223]: The ambulance went to the wrong address which is why there is such a long

[00:45:02,103]: Typically an ambulance would be there in about 90 seconds at the most

[00:45:05,903]: There’s you know a fire station that close

[00:45:08,263]: They went to the wrong address

[00:45:09,423]: And you see this on the body camera footage that one of the paramedics is almost joking around with Thomas Lane going gosh we didn’t know where you guys were

[00:45:17,483]: We went to the wrong place

[00:45:18,423]: That’s why it took us so long

[00:45:20,703]: And there’s a very problematic EMS response to all of this that is also not allowed to be discussed in Chauvin’s trial either

[00:45:29,203]: What’s the problematic EMS response

[00:45:30,923]: The fact that they go to the wrong address

[00:45:33,503]: They also are hooking George Floyd up to get air to breathe and the machine itself is not plugged in in the ambulance

[00:45:45,963]: You know there has been

[00:45:47,143]: The machine is not plugged in

[00:45:48,223]: Yes

[00:45:48,863]: This is all in the documentary

[00:45:52,283]: Did anybody hit him with Narcan

[00:45:55,343]: You know that’s a question I get quite a bit

[00:45:57,323]: And this is before you know this is more than five years ago at this point where they didn’t even the officers didn’t all have Narcan at that point

[00:46:07,183]: This is kind of just the beginnings of all of that

[00:46:09,683]: And you also had two officers that were brand new and they were partnered together

[00:46:16,223]: And I think you can see even just with their interactions they understand something is going on with him

[00:46:21,843]: He also stuffs some you know what you think are drugs in his mouth during their interaction

[00:46:27,923]: And they’re asking him what do you want

[00:46:29,503]: What did you take

[00:46:30,283]: And you know he’s very combative but they think it’s more of a something is going on medically

[00:46:34,743]: They try to get him into the squad car

[00:46:36,543]: It’s George Floyd himself who asks to be laid on the ground

[00:46:39,663]: Many people don’t know that

[00:46:41,643]: He asks to be laid on the ground himself

[00:46:44,283]: And this is just this hold that they do

[00:46:47,703]: But we quickly find out again it’s within 12 hours that in his autopsy you can see that he’s been described to us as a ticking time bomb sadly George Floyd

[00:46:58,443]: He has this tumor a paraganglioma that more testing isn’t done on that

[00:47:05,243]: And that can lead to in his hip a large tumor

[00:47:08,763]: And that can lead to death when people are in that hyped state which clearly George Floyd is

[00:47:14,643]: You can see on his face when you watch the video that he knows he’s dying and he’s panicked

[00:47:19,943]: I’ll speak for myself and say I really felt for the guy

[00:47:22,163]: You can see the terror in his eyes

[00:47:23,963]: Like he’s on his way out

[00:47:24,823]: He’s not ready for it

[00:47:26,543]: You know God knows where he’s going

[00:47:28,083]: And he knows he knows that

[00:47:31,363]: And but it’s just obvious from the video that it has nothing to do with how he’s being treated by the cops

[00:47:37,163]: Like that’s why he’s freaking out because he knows he’s dying

[00:47:40,483]: Did you feel that watching

[00:47:42,063]: Well I have been a kind of a cops reporter I guess for years

[00:47:45,283]: But you always know that there’s more to this

[00:47:47,983]: And also quickly we learned within those first couple of days he’d been arrested in 2019 by the Minneapolis Police Department

[00:47:53,643]: He was the subject of an undercover drug investigation George Floyd

[00:47:57,503]: Again something people had no idea

[00:47:59,163]: Almost exactly a year prior

[00:48:00,963]: And police have an interaction with him and he has an overdose

[00:48:04,883]: It’s almost a carbon copy of the interaction

[00:48:07,523]: Don’t shoot me

[00:48:08,603]: He’s very resistant

[00:48:11,163]: Is this on video

[00:48:11,863]: I can’t breathe

[00:48:13,023]: Yes it’s all on video

[00:48:14,403]: And that’s actually how we start our documentary

[00:48:16,823]: What

[00:48:16,823]: Was that introduced to his trial

[00:48:18,323]: In fact the police say that the police chief says they’ve never heard of George Floyd before

[00:48:23,923]: They have no idea who he is

[00:48:25,423]: And that’s in shortly after

[00:48:27,003]: The police chief says that

[00:48:28,063]: The police chief

[00:48:28,263]: Why would he say that

[00:48:30,503]: That’s a whole nother

[00:48:31,823]: Yeah

[00:48:32,303]: Who’s the police chief

[00:48:33,083]: The police chief at the time is Madera Arredondo

[00:48:36,503]: He’s serving in that capacity

[00:48:38,643]: Is he from Minneapolis

[00:48:39,503]: He’s from Minneapolis

[00:48:40,963]: But many people on the department they feel that he just sold their entire department out

[00:48:47,363]: Where is he now

[00:48:49,243]: Looking for a job I think

[00:48:51,263]: He’s selling a book

[00:48:53,283]: May he long be unemployed

[00:48:54,623]: Is he an ally of Jacob Fries

[00:48:57,023]: Yes

[00:48:57,663]: I mean certainly

[00:48:58,643]: Yes

[00:48:59,273]: The mayor and the chief worked alongside each other

[00:49:01,783]: But you also have this chief who then makes this all about race

[00:49:07,243]: He embraces that also

[00:49:10,303]: And again when it’s so clear the evidence doesn’t support that at all

[00:49:13,983]: You have an among American officer in Toutao a black officer in Alex King and then Thomas Lane and Derek Chauvin who are white

[00:49:22,223]: And they sold this to the public as this is the

[00:49:25,683]: The face of white supremacy

[00:49:27,743]: And all these repulsive preachers got up there and Protestant churches and sold that to their congregations all these politicians like basically every leader every business leader the entire leadership class of the country pivoted behind this lie within 24 hours

[00:49:45,883]: Nikki Haley was like we need Minneapolis to burn down

[00:49:48,563]: It’ll be atonement for the sins of white supremacy

[00:49:51,483]: I mean it was like never seen anything like it

[00:49:55,203]: What was that

[00:49:57,023]: Like it really felt like this was a play that they had planned for this day

[00:50:04,243]: You had Governor Walz saying these same things fanning again fanning the flames withholding the National Guard encouraging people to basically show up and protest

[00:50:15,763]: You had his wife speak on camera about how she left the windows open to the governor’s mansion so she could smell the burning tires just to really appreciate the movement and the moment

[00:50:27,763]: The Winnie Mandela of Minnesota necklacing her enemies

[00:50:32,663]: Yeah crazy

[00:50:34,243]: And it of course changed the country forever

[00:50:40,903]: But the response felt coordinated

[00:50:44,543]: I guess that’s what I’m saying

[00:50:46,063]: Was it

[00:50:47,163]: You did

[00:50:47,963]: You had planes filled with people coming in shortly after protesters

[00:50:53,903]: Planes filled with people

[00:50:54,163]: Planes filled with people

[00:50:55,003]: I’ve spoken to people that work at the airport that have told me about that

[00:50:59,663]: A lot of young kids

[00:51:00,963]: We had people at our house who admitted to us that they came from Oregon

[00:51:05,183]: They had no idea who we were

[00:51:06,563]: They were holding signs in our neighborhood

[00:51:08,683]: But they got a free weekend at a hotel so they came to our suburban neighborhood to hold a sign in front of our yard

[00:51:15,883]: Who paid for all this

[00:51:17,383]: Well and that’s what’s always bothered me as a reporter

[00:51:20,583]: Also these are all things you can track down

[00:51:24,243]: These are all public documents

[00:51:26,903]: But yes these left wing groups George Soros had a role that’s pretty clear in many of these groups that popped up

[00:51:35,503]: Black Lives Matter played a big role in all of this

[00:51:39,623]: Again you follow the money you follow the power and that’s kind of where the truth usually is

[00:51:44,763]: And Black Lives Matter got its funding mostly from corporate America I think

[00:51:49,103]: Yes and many Minnesota corporations fed into that

[00:51:54,543]: You see some of that going away now thankfully

[00:51:57,743]: But you had George Floyd Memorial Field at Target Field where the Minnesota Twins play

[00:52:02,923]: Not really

[00:52:03,723]: Really

[00:52:04,163]: For years

[00:52:05,163]: The drug addict porn star armed robber they named the field after him

[00:52:08,903]: He’s the civic hero in Minnesota now

[00:52:10,683]: They had a banner

[00:52:11,783]: Again thankfully that’s now been taken down

[00:52:14,043]: But they called it George Floyd Memorial Field

[00:52:16,923]: Correct

[00:52:19,923]: The Episcopal Cathedral in San Francisco where I was baptized I visited it shortly after that and they had a St George Floyd pennant that you could kind of hang in your house

[00:52:34,243]: Little icon

[00:52:35,363]: It’s crazy

[00:52:35,963]: I mean even that area 38th and Chicago most of the businesses are gone

[00:52:39,723]: In fact talk about irony the businesses are suing the city of Minneapolis for a lack of police presence in that area

[00:52:48,223]: You’ve had skyrocketing crime since

[00:52:52,343]: You know the mantra was that we’d be living on the right side of history

[00:52:56,103]: This is what we were told over and over again whether it be our governor the mayor the police chief this is the right side of history

[00:53:02,943]: And I’ve yet to find anyone who actually thinks that we’re living there

[00:53:07,343]: At the time so the trial the riots happened how many people died during the riots do you recall

[00:53:13,063]: It’s been reported about five or six but again do you tie them just to the most expensive riots in U S history

[00:53:19,943]: Probably 1 500 businesses either damaged or destroyed in the wake of them

[00:53:26,503]: Then the trial happens

[00:53:28,943]: Does anybody in Minneapolis in any position of authority or in the media say hey wait a second there’s no evidence that these cops killed this guy

[00:53:37,543]: No

[00:53:38,543]: Nobody said that

[00:53:39,943]: No

[00:53:41,143]: My husband

[00:53:43,263]: We saw what happened to him

[00:53:45,423]: And he just you know he’s a believer of due process

[00:53:49,783]: They obviously had attorneys but even the attorneys representing these officers were not very vocal in all of this

[00:53:57,503]: It’s almost like the truth just didn’t stand a chance

[00:53:59,323]: So one of the lessons is and this is just the ugliest feature of human nature but if someone or something becomes super unpopular only an infinitesimally small number of people are brave enough to stand up and tell the truth

[00:54:14,503]: Once the mob forms almost everybody goes along with it

[00:54:19,663]: Did you know that before this happened

[00:54:22,383]: Not on this level no

[00:54:23,883]: And that’s why I kept speaking up

[00:54:25,503]: I kept going well hey there’s this

[00:54:26,863]: Hey let’s do this story

[00:54:28,123]: And then it just became very clear to me like this is scary

[00:54:33,103]: This is scary

[00:54:34,323]: This is what the world has turned into

[00:54:37,363]: This is what the media has turned into

[00:54:39,063]: They just lynched these guys

[00:54:40,563]: And everyone kind of posed with pictures of the corpse

[00:54:44,843]: Like it’s just exactly what you read about in dark times long ago

[00:54:48,943]: And it happens in Minneapolis like the most civilized American city we’ve ever had

[00:54:54,303]: The most polite city in the world

[00:54:56,543]: You have the mayor crying at you know George Floyd’s casket at his funeral

[00:55:02,023]: People couldn’t gather for COVID but yet George Floyd had a highly attended funeral and you could protest in a riot

[00:55:08,763]: That was encouraged

[00:55:09,523]: George Floyd’s dead

[00:55:10,403]: And I already said I felt sorry for him watching the video because he knew he was dying

[00:55:14,743]: And like it’s scary you know for people who haven’t prepared for it I think

[00:55:19,803]: But is there any evidence now that we know more about George Floyd the man that George Floyd ever did anything to improve our society or help anybody else or did any virtuous or redeeming things ever

[00:55:30,463]: No there’s actually been so much that has not been reported about him

[00:55:35,083]: I mean clearly he was an addict

[00:55:36,423]: He struggled as an addict for most of his adult life

[00:55:39,623]: He spent most of his adult life in and out of prison

[00:55:43,603]: That’s documented

[00:55:45,863]: But even his he was from St Louis Park

[00:55:48,963]: He didn’t even live in Minneapolis

[00:55:50,443]: He lived in St

[00:55:51,203]: Louis Park a suburb with his roommates

[00:55:53,063]: And his roommates have talked about how his family never even came to gather his personal belongings

[00:55:57,903]: They were just left there

[00:55:59,043]: His car was still there

[00:56:00,323]: I mean like a year later

[00:56:02,663]: His family all got rich right

[00:56:04,323]: They were paid 27 million during Derek Chauvin’s jury selection

[00:56:11,103]: They were awarded 27 million

[00:56:12,723]: What do you think kind of message that sent to the jury being seated at that time

[00:56:16,643]: Why isn’t Trump pardoned him

[00:56:18,783]: You know it’s a little bit more complicated

[00:56:20,903]: There were rumors about that perhaps happening but then he would be brought back to a state facility where he’d be in you know he’d be in solitary confinement for sure

[00:56:32,163]: So even if the president pardoned him on federal charges he’d still be in

[00:56:35,583]: He has a concurrent state sentence

[00:56:38,883]: And they’ve all can’t find enough microphones to talk about how they can’t wait for that to happen because they would love him to serve every last hour in Minnesota

[00:56:47,383]: Why not send the National Guard in and just liberate him by force

[00:56:51,363]: I mean this is insane that we would allow something like this

[00:56:54,423]: Yeah he has at this point more than 15 years left on his sentence

[00:56:59,443]: Federal

[00:57:00,623]: They are concurrent sentences

[00:57:02,083]: So yes

[00:57:03,303]: How old is he

[00:57:05,203]: At this point he would be

[00:57:09,463]: Oh my gosh that’s a

[00:57:10,603]: You might have to edit this out

[00:57:11,603]: He’s a middle aged man

[00:57:12,623]: Yeah

[00:57:13,443]: So he’ll be an elderly man by the time he gets out

[00:57:15,883]: Yeah I think he would be in his 60s by the time of his release

[00:57:20,303]: Most of his life gone for sure

[00:57:22,523]: But so back to George Floyd who was

[00:57:25,543]: George Floyd spent most of his life in and out of prison

[00:57:27,943]: He was a drug addict

[00:57:30,083]: He appeared in a porn film

[00:57:32,583]: It’s too perfect

[00:57:33,443]: He was at one point convicted of armed robbery where he stuck a gun in the belly of a pregnant woman

[00:57:38,163]: Am I misremembering this

[00:57:40,203]: That’s right

[00:57:40,723]: He committed a home invasion

[00:57:45,183]: It doesn’t seem to be clear that she was pregnant but yeah pretty awful person I think incapable of doing that at all

[00:57:54,123]: But he came then to Minneapolis and I know he was fired from a couple of jobs

[00:58:00,343]: He was working and basically hooking up with people at one job that he had addicts and bringing them back to his home something that’s not allowed

[00:58:11,963]: And in fact in the book I detail he was the suspect in a couple of rapes in Minnesota where that evidence has mysteriously disappeared

[00:58:21,783]: What

[00:58:23,023]: What does that mean to be a suspect in rapes

[00:58:25,043]: Like the police

[00:58:25,743]: The police were investigating

[00:58:29,263]: He was being accused of rape

[00:58:35,823]: And this was the hero after whom they named the ballpark

[00:58:40,443]: Still shocking to this day but is this how far we’ve fallen as a society

[00:58:45,123]: What has happened to the moral compass

[00:58:48,203]: It’s not even a fall

[00:58:49,343]: It’s like it’s an attack

[00:58:51,943]: Yeah

[00:58:52,543]: Not by you know the population itself but by its leaders trying to invert virtue and make you worship a rapist

[00:59:01,303]: And St George Floyd if they can make you worship someone like that the lowest person in your society like truly the lowest stupid criminal violent selfish addicts are selfish by definition

[00:59:15,003]: If that’s the hero they can make you worship then they just flip the society upside down and they destroy it

[00:59:21,043]: Governor Walz at one point asked for all public schools kids to be silent for nine minutes and 29 seconds you know the time frame

[00:59:33,583]: He did that in a declaration

[00:59:36,883]: Many people I heard from did not

[00:59:38,703]: But they literally the public schools are required to worship George Floyd

[00:59:41,903]: Correct

[00:59:44,583]: Okay

[00:59:46,383]: A couple of the threads I just want to get to

[00:59:48,223]: So I think you’re a rigorous honest person

[00:59:52,683]: Do you see any way an honest jury or an honest process could result in the conviction of Chauvin and the other three

[01:00:03,383]: No

[01:00:03,963]: I mean if our judicial system is what it says it is when you’re presented with all of the evidence and all of the facts and you take out all of the manipulation the fear mongering again you had even Chauvin’s trial

[01:00:20,223]: Armed guards are standing by

[01:00:22,863]: The Hennepin County Courthouse is you know being patrolled by this militia

[01:00:27,503]: And in a sense there are all these dispensing is put up around the building

[01:00:32,163]: The jury is not sequestered for the trial

[01:00:34,663]: You have these mobs of people out protesting every day

[01:00:37,543]: I don’t think anybody in their right mind is going to say yeah this guy is innocent because then I’m going to probably be protested or killed or lose my job or whatever it is in the fallout

[01:00:48,663]: Again I had nothing really nothing to do with this

[01:00:51,883]: And I was you know demoted and canceled

[01:00:55,683]: You just don’t see how Ted Cruz and the rest can say that Iran is the biggest threat to a country in which things like this are happening

[01:01:03,083]: This is the threat the attack on truth and fairness decency the love of people for each other the cohesiveness of your society citizenship virtue like all of it is dying because it’s being overwhelmed by evil

[01:01:19,723]: And yet you look you know your focus is outside the country on some theoretical threat

[01:01:24,403]: We wish somebody would come to Minnesota and save us Tucker

[01:01:26,883]: No but it’s just like look I’m not saying Iran’s not badly from Iran or for them having a nuclear weapon but compared to what like this is our country and this happened and no one’s ever apologized

[01:01:38,163]: No one’s ever been held accountable

[01:01:39,703]: The guys who didn’t do the crime are still in prison

[01:01:43,143]: It’s like it’s crazy that this could happen because fairness really matters

[01:01:47,703]: If your society is not fair it’s not worth defending

[01:01:49,883]: You know even speaking to Tutau’s family they are a family of refugees

[01:01:54,323]: Both sets of their parents came to America and they talked about that with me

[01:01:59,543]: It’s like they picked the wrong country

[01:02:00,383]: And they said that this is not what we thought America was

[01:02:03,183]: Yeah okay I didn’t think that either

[01:02:04,963]: And I was born here

[01:02:05,643]: Oh I agree

[01:02:06,383]: Yeah

[01:02:07,603]: Sorry sorry for the editorial the constant editorializing

[01:02:09,583]: It’s just what you’re saying is so and the way you’re saying it which is like flat just the facts ma am

[01:02:16,303]: It’s driving me insane

[01:02:18,243]: I can’t how can you still live there

[01:02:21,083]: Job security Tucker

[01:02:22,503]: Yeah

[01:02:23,003]: Good point

[01:02:24,103]: If you’re one of five reporters in the entire state like you’ll work forever

[01:02:30,163]: Amazing

[01:02:31,883]: So who is Tim Walz exactly

[01:02:34,303]: Most of us I just want to say I think he’s like should be investigated by the sex crimes unit

[01:02:39,783]: I really feel that way

[01:02:42,303]: I’m not asking to comment on that but he’s one of the creepiest people I’ve ever seen

[01:02:46,183]: The vibe I get off that guy I would not let him in my house

[01:02:49,343]: That’s just my feeling

[01:02:50,283]: Maybe I’m being totally unfair in which case I apologize

[01:02:53,903]: But you have the facts I don’t

[01:02:55,763]: Who is this guy

[01:02:57,583]: Yeah I think so much of this has happened on the watch of Governor Walz

[01:03:01,843]: Again I’m talking about I’ve lived in Minnesota for most of my life at this point as a reporter there for 20 years

[01:03:09,563]: Born there

[01:03:10,043]: Born there

[01:03:10,923]: Born raised spent a little time outside of the state and been back for 20 years now

[01:03:16,663]: But I’ve just never seen this kind of I don’t even know if you can call it leadership

[01:03:24,123]: I’m not exactly sure

[01:03:26,043]: Manipulation by a leader

[01:03:30,803]: Again we’ve talked about this capital of chaos

[01:03:33,103]: This has all been under his watch

[01:03:35,543]: But we’ve done so much reporting over at Alpha News with the truth of this guy

[01:03:39,643]: It was interesting to see others finally report about him because the local media will not when he was picked as the VP candidate for Kamala Harris

[01:03:48,743]: But it started sort of with picking up on just these little lies he would tell

[01:03:53,703]: And these are things that we would report on

[01:03:57,163]: He never was a command sergeant major despite the fact him saying that he was

[01:04:04,683]: He never attained this rank in the military

[01:04:07,223]: Instead he abandoned his troops and they were deployed to Iraq without him and he ran for Congress

[01:04:14,423]: So I’ve always felt as a reporter if someone lies about little things they’re lying about big things

[01:04:19,863]: I think that’s just you know

[01:04:23,283]: That’s a principle that stands the test of time

[01:04:26,283]: And you kind of would just see this with little things that he would say that was just not reality

[01:04:32,483]: But Minnesota has become you know the home of this defund the police movement

[01:04:37,383]: It was on the ballot

[01:04:38,943]: Minneapolis did not vote to defund the police but I would say in every way shape or form they defunded the police

[01:04:44,963]: You have the Minneapolis Police Department that’s lost about 40 of their cops since George Floyd

[01:04:52,803]: But instead of being

[01:04:54,143]: Wait Minneapolis lost 40 of its cops in five years

[01:04:56,903]: Nearly half yeah

[01:04:58,723]: And I actually think we’re just now getting to the point of you thought there were problems with the police five years ago

[01:05:04,923]: Just wait until you see some of these people that are coming up on the job

[01:05:09,543]: Yeah who’s going to be a cop now

[01:05:10,363]: Exactly

[01:05:10,883]: It’s pretty horrifying

[01:05:12,503]: And I don’t blame any of these people for leaving

[01:05:15,303]: But they’re not going to be hiring criminals

[01:05:17,103]: It’ll just be a criminal gang

[01:05:18,223]: That’s happened before

[01:05:19,903]: So under walls we have the riots

[01:05:22,343]: We have these lies just about things with his background that I think really deserve more

[01:05:30,120]: attention more investigating these ties to China which I think are troubling

[01:05:35,320]: What ties does he have to China

[01:05:37,120]: Well he we know himself he said that he’s made more than 30 trips to China

[01:05:42,960]: He went there upon graduating

[01:05:45,400]: 30 trips to China

[01:05:47,120]: Went there upon graduating

[01:05:48,340]: That’s a long flight

[01:05:49,900]: And he’s I mean he spent his life he’s like a school teacher

[01:05:53,620]: He’s from Nebraska originally

[01:05:55,440]: What is he what is a school teacher from Nebraska doing making 30 trips to China

[01:06:01,000]: And in the National Guard at the time as well making these trips to China

[01:06:05,920]: We also know he started a travel agency

[01:06:08,740]: What’s that

[01:06:09,780]: First of all it’s really expensive

[01:06:11,560]: It’s time consuming

[01:06:13,460]: It’s not something that happens you don’t go to China 30 times unless you have a real reason to do that

[01:06:17,560]: What would that reason be

[01:06:18,620]: He was taking kids over there at one point as a travel agency

[01:06:23,480]: But what’s interesting is I’ve spoken to

[01:06:25,840]: Who would let their kids travel with Tim Walz

[01:06:27,000]: I’ve spoken to a few of them that they’re obviously older now

[01:06:30,000]: They were in their 20s when they would make these trips in college

[01:06:32,900]: One student in particular it’s very interesting

[01:06:35,440]: He said that he’d been trying to get the attention of the media about this guy for years

[01:06:39,900]: He said he would go there on these trips and collect the little red Mao book

[01:06:44,360]: He would buy as many as he could on these trips saying that they were you know souvenirs

[01:06:48,300]: Tim Walz would

[01:06:49,340]: And he said he it was very apparent

[01:06:51,280]: He just had this he adored communism and would talk about it in conversation

[01:06:59,400]: These students could pick up on that

[01:07:03,540]: Are you serious

[01:07:04,060]: And this student tried even when he was running for Congress to say there’s more to this guy that you guys need to be

[01:07:10,480]: Mao killed so many more people than Hitler that it’s not even close

[01:07:12,600]: Yes

[01:07:13,020]: Not a defense of Hitler who was evil

[01:07:15,160]: But Mao is the greatest mass murderer in history

[01:07:17,580]: He’s also married

[01:07:20,320]: His wedding anniversary they were married five years after Tiananmen Square

[01:07:24,440]: And he picked that date because it was a date that they would remember he and his wife

[01:07:29,500]: Who does that

[01:07:30,860]: Tiananmen Square

[01:07:32,080]: Correct

[01:07:32,720]: The tank crushing the lone protester

[01:07:34,920]: That’s

[01:07:35,480]: Their wedding anniversary

[01:07:36,580]: And they went to China for their honeymoon

[01:07:39,260]: Come on

[01:07:41,680]: I mean I was in this country during that campaign

[01:07:44,760]: It was less than a year ago

[01:07:45,780]: I never heard anybody say that

[01:07:47,820]: But again you have in Minnesota what has happened

[01:07:50,160]: We have a new state flag

[01:07:52,020]: Wait wait

[01:07:52,420]: Do you think

[01:07:53,320]: I’m sorry

[01:07:53,840]: I’m just mesmerized by this

[01:07:54,880]: There’s a lot of questions

[01:07:55,600]: I agree

[01:07:56,860]: Yeah

[01:07:57,300]: But the problem is there’s not anybody looking for answers it seems like

[01:08:00,920]: Well they want to kill themselves

[01:08:02,140]: So that’s

[01:08:03,020]: They’re doing a great job

[01:08:04,780]: I get it

[01:08:05,580]: I mean ultimately I just have to say this as a white man I do blame the liberal whites

[01:08:10,760]: They want to kill themselves and their kids

[01:08:13,600]: That’s what they’re into

[01:08:14,600]: I don’t know what it’s

[01:08:15,960]: You see it in Britain

[01:08:17,740]: I’m not into suicide so I’m opposed

[01:08:20,200]: But they’re the ones doing this and Wallace is a perfect example too

[01:08:23,000]: But why would he

[01:08:25,040]: You’re sure he picked the anniversary of Tiananmen Square

[01:08:27,900]: They’ve talked about this in interviews

[01:08:29,740]: Yeah

[01:08:29,960]: This is in newspapers

[01:08:31,400]: But Tiananmen Square was a massacre of peaceful protesters

[01:08:34,240]: I know

[01:08:35,460]: Do you think they picked it to like in the memory of those brave souls who died opposing the machine

[01:08:40,980]: They haven’t said that

[01:08:42,540]: Oh my God

[01:08:44,000]: And what’s interesting is again we’re focusing over at Alpha News on these stories

[01:08:48,960]: There’s supposed to be a congressional hearing about all of this and it’s kind of just gone nowhere

[01:08:54,920]: Sadly

[01:08:55,480]: We also know I’ve spoken to a couple people that served with Tim Walz in Nebraska in that guard unit and they suspect and we’ve done stories and tried to reach out to Walz for comment but they suspect that perhaps he took their standard operating procedure the howitzer army tank

[01:09:17,540]: He was assigned to this tank

[01:09:19,900]: It was nuclear capable and this was all laid out in the SOP that goes missing while he’s there

[01:09:26,980]: The manual goes missing

[01:09:27,940]: Right

[01:09:28,220]: And they had talked to the FBI about this as well

[01:09:32,040]: There’s so many questions

[01:09:33,220]: What does that mean

[01:09:33,240]: Why’d they talk to the FBI

[01:09:34,780]: They think that he’s traveling back and forth from China at this time

[01:09:39,040]: And then we also know that this howitzer

[01:09:40,900]: Wait wait wait

[01:09:41,680]: I know I sound crazy right now

[01:09:43,220]: No no

[01:09:43,900]: You don’t sound crazy at all

[01:09:45,340]: You’re recounting the facts

[01:09:47,240]: You are saying that men he worked with in the National Guard in Nebraska went to the FBI because they believed he had given classified military secrets to the Chinese government

[01:09:59,280]: They suspect that he did

[01:10:01,880]: Well they suspect it to the point that he went to the FBI

[01:10:03,960]: Well this was all when all these stories are coming out finally about his background and they’re like maybe we should talk about this

[01:10:11,520]: These are guys that back then didn’t report this

[01:10:14,440]: This was in the early 90s

[01:10:15,540]: And they always talked about it amongst themselves

[01:10:19,020]: And I think that they weren’t completely aware of you know the potential threat something like this could pose but they always thought this was very strange

[01:10:26,840]: And then China started producing almost a carbon copy of this military tank a couple years later

[01:10:33,360]: Come on

[01:10:35,420]: For real

[01:10:36,920]: According to all of our research

[01:10:40,300]: Did the Minneapolis Star Tribune break this story

[01:10:43,760]: Oh no

[01:10:44,340]: No no

[01:10:45,240]: They haven’t touched much of this

[01:10:47,100]: In fact actually when they reported it’s Tim Walz goes to China with these kids and it’s this great travel company he started

[01:10:54,660]: I think it was a very small story even addressing this at all

[01:10:59,260]: And he chose to be married on the fifth anniversary of a massacre of peaceful protesters

[01:11:07,160]: Oh man this is super dark

[01:11:10,040]: I realized too that it’s some of it seems like impossible to believe

[01:11:13,660]: But again being trained as a reporter I know how this works

[01:11:15,940]: You talk to people you verify things you source things

[01:11:18,480]: And I feel very confident always in all of our information

[01:11:21,100]: And that’s what is always so frustrating to me that this should be this should be the front page of the Star Tribune basically every day

[01:11:27,520]: But instead the Star Tribune is run by a former commissioner of Governor Walz

[01:11:32,100]: He’s the CEO and publisher

[01:11:33,480]: And it’s it’s truly unbelievable

[01:11:36,440]: The stories they put out it’s just turned into pure propaganda

[01:11:40,540]: The Star Tribune is run by a former Walz commissioner

[01:11:44,200]: It is

[01:11:45,220]: Steve Groves was his commissioner for for years

[01:11:49,820]: And I don’t think this relationship actually exists anywhere in the country between a governor and a publisher of the largest newspaper

[01:11:57,960]: But somehow in Minnesota that’s allowed votes

[01:12:00,600]: So Minnesota has not thrived under the leadership of Tim Walz

[01:12:04,220]: It’s gotten much worse

[01:12:07,660]: You were telling me today about people you know and I know people too who’ve moved from Minnesota to Iowa

[01:12:13,100]: Yeah no offense to Iowa

[01:12:14,040]: It’s like the nicest you know the nicest people in the world

[01:12:16,500]: It also is the worst weather of any state

[01:12:19,480]: It’s totally flat

[01:12:21,840]: Minnesota is just beautiful

[01:12:24,320]: Again I’m not beating up on Iowa

[01:12:25,800]: I really do love Iowa

[01:12:27,060]: I spent a lot of time there

[01:12:27,580]: But you know Minneapolis I mean Minnesota is kind of the dream

[01:12:32,260]: Iowa’s like sturdy farm people and all that

[01:12:35,500]: If you’re if you’re seeing a migration from Minnesota to Iowa Minnesota is in serious trouble

[01:12:42,380]: Is this fair

[01:12:43,360]: Oh thousands of people have have left

[01:12:45,460]: Tens of thousands of people have left Minnesota

[01:12:48,100]: I know so many people even in my neighborhood that have that have moved

[01:12:53,020]: So it’s gotten so much worse under this guy who got married on the fifth anniversary of Tiananmen Square because he loves the idea of tanks mowing over protesters

[01:13:06,320]: Who votes for him

[01:13:07,760]: How does he get elected in the state

[01:13:09,720]: Well this is what’s interesting

[01:13:12,420]: The last time a Republican has held a statewide office in Minnesota was 2006

[01:13:17,920]: It’s been a while

[01:13:19,760]: Pawlenty or who was that

[01:13:20,680]: Tim Pawlenty when he was elected as governor

[01:13:24,540]: We saw the House get a little closer in the legislature this time around but the last time we had a DFL trifecta for the first time

[01:13:33,960]: For people who aren’t familiar can you explain what DFL is

[01:13:35,780]: So that’s the Democratic Farm and Labor DFL the Democratic Party

[01:13:41,580]: It’s the Democratic Party but your state is different in lots of ways

[01:13:44,940]: Yes

[01:13:45,460]: Yes it is

[01:13:46,180]: But I always have said that with Minnesota you have a couple blue cities but the state is very red

[01:13:53,320]: Probably more red now than ever before

[01:13:55,680]: Minnesota was Democrat but like in a German Scandinavian you know sort of working class but clean upright

[01:14:03,620]: Not in a radical way

[01:14:04,860]: At all

[01:14:05,600]: Like very old fashioned labor Democrats of the kind that I kind of love

[01:14:11,840]: I don’t think we disagree on much

[01:14:13,380]: How did it become neoliberal nihilistic

[01:14:17,840]: Well that’s even my husband talks about this

[01:14:19,360]: He grew up as a Democrat

[01:14:20,380]: His dad was an electrician union working class

[01:14:23,900]: That’s how it worked

[01:14:25,920]: That has totally changed

[01:14:27,720]: These are not polyamory Democrats these are not ayahuasca Democrats

[01:14:32,440]: You have like a city council though in Minneapolis that primarily is they are socialists

[01:14:38,520]: They are self proclaimed socialists that are running the city council of Minneapolis

[01:14:42,940]: But we’ve just seen it go more and more to the left each and every year

[01:14:47,260]: But even Walls I will say that I don’t think people were completely familiar with his background when he was elected

[01:14:56,200]: So who backed him

[01:14:56,480]: You don’t just get elected to statewide office anywhere by yourself

[01:14:59,600]: Well the DFL has all the money

[01:15:00,640]: I mean it’s like 10 to 1 100 to 1

[01:15:03,320]: It’s unbelievable what they can spend but it is a lot of out of state money

[01:15:06,980]: Where are they getting their money

[01:15:08,160]: Out of state

[01:15:09,200]: Yes

[01:15:10,540]: Yeah

[01:15:11,560]: Very little actually locally

[01:15:16,020]: And so Minnesota like every other place in the country is just like totally dominated by out of state leftists billionaires who hate America and want to destroy it

[01:15:23,980]: That’s what I think is so telling

[01:15:26,300]: Keith Ellison not from Minnesota

[01:15:28,160]: He’s the law enforcement officer for the state

[01:15:32,380]: Tim Walls Fry a lot of these people and they’ve done so much damage in a pretty short amount of time

[01:15:39,360]: So they’re all from out of state

[01:15:41,020]: They’re all paid by donors from out of state

[01:15:45,160]: None of this has anything to do with Minnesota and they’ve completely taken over your state and changed it utterly packed it with immigrants by the way

[01:15:54,280]: Changed the nature of who lives there the demographics of it completely and none of it was organic

[01:16:01,620]: Like it wasn’t like the people of Minnesota asked for this

[01:16:03,960]: It wasn’t democracy

[01:16:05,140]: Yeah

[01:16:05,560]: There’s always this like Minnesota nice

[01:16:07,220]: I’m sure you’ve probably heard that

[01:16:08,540]: There’s nice people who live there

[01:16:09,960]: But Minnesota naive

[01:16:11,080]: I’m like are we really that naive

[01:16:12,480]: I mean I can I’m not that naive which is why I’m trying to you know do something about it

[01:16:17,100]: They’re very passive

[01:16:17,920]: Yeah

[01:16:18,860]: And you know it’s this land of 10 000 lakes that seems to have turned into the land of 10 000 lies

[01:16:26,020]: So many lies sadly

[01:16:30,220]: Who’s Keith Ellison

[01:16:33,120]: Well quite a bit about him in my book as well

[01:16:37,980]: But when we talk about even just this war on the police that has been waged in Minneapolis across the state of Minnesota he was an attorney who came to Minnesota and represented gang members decades ago

[01:16:57,420]: In fact represented a gang member who was responsible for executing a Minneapolis police officer Jerry Hoff

[01:17:04,800]: He was involved in that

[01:17:07,840]: It’s hard to believe I think by any cops in the state

[01:17:10,880]: However he was elected to be our attorney general

[01:17:16,840]: But it is very anti law enforcement

[01:17:18,920]: That’s clear

[01:17:19,960]: Besides the four

[01:17:21,320]: And what’s his job now

[01:17:22,240]: He’s the attorney general of Minnesota

[01:17:24,080]: He’s the chief law enforcement officer in the state but he’s very anti law enforcement

[01:17:27,040]: Correct

[01:17:27,480]: Yes

[01:17:28,140]: It’s like a vegetarian butcher

[01:17:29,780]: It just doesn’t work

[01:17:30,500]: Actually makes no sense at all

[01:17:32,500]: But in addition to these four officers there was another female officer criminally charged and another Minneapolis police officer criminally charged as well

[01:17:43,040]: So this is six police officers charged

[01:17:47,420]: They tried to charge another Minnesota state trooper criminally recently and the charges were dropped

[01:17:54,380]: We also lost in the line of duty five first responders

[01:18:00,220]: One was a firefighter paramedic in a matter of 13 months in Minnesota

[01:18:05,200]: What do you mean

[01:18:06,460]: You have just this anti law enforcement rhetoric

[01:18:10,000]: Murdered on the job

[01:18:11,800]: Five

[01:18:12,160]: In a matter of a year basically

[01:18:15,860]: Again something that people don’t talk about

[01:18:17,320]: Did anyone name a ballpark after any of them

[01:18:19,340]: No

[01:18:20,540]: Right

[01:18:21,180]: So this is nihilists from out of state who hate the United States hate Christianity who are trying to invert our society and destroy it

[01:18:28,640]: And I’m not saying it’s the Chinese but like I don’t know

[01:18:32,320]: I don’t know what this is but it’s not bubbling up from the people of Minnesota

[01:18:37,700]: Is it

[01:18:39,000]: In fact I have never I struggle sometimes finding people that will say openly that they even support walls

[01:18:46,220]: As a reporter it’s really shocking to me

[01:18:48,580]: I was actually trying to help some news crews that were in town saying OK well maybe go to this festival or that

[01:18:53,920]: They were struggling to find people to go on camera that even you know would openly admit to supporting him

[01:19:00,000]: In fact his home area in Mankato where he lived for 20 years they voted for Trump and Walls was on the ticket with Kamala

[01:19:08,920]: So what does that tell you

[01:19:09,800]: Who’s going to be governor next

[01:19:11,960]: So that’s a great question

[01:19:14,740]: He’s likely running again

[01:19:16,720]: Tim Walz

[01:19:17,100]: It sounds that way gearing up to at this point

[01:19:21,240]: You think of all the money that we spent we spend you know trillion dollars a year on the military

[01:19:26,300]: I’m not against the military I guess

[01:19:29,100]: But I mean maybe we could spend some of that money improving our cities or finding better leaders or something right

[01:19:36,020]: It’s just such a tragedy

[01:19:37,680]: So let’s talk about Minneapolis the city

[01:19:40,480]: All eyes were on it five years ago almost exactly five years ago the summer of 2020

[01:19:44,880]: And the idea was there are all these systemic racism problems Nikki Haley told us there and this was going to cleanse them through fire

[01:19:56,420]: What’s the city like now

[01:19:57,760]: You’ve been there you said your whole life

[01:19:59,600]: Is it better

[01:20:01,400]: It’s unrecognizable in many areas

[01:20:04,020]: Not better

[01:20:05,120]: I’m yet to find anybody who thinks the city is better

[01:20:09,100]: Five years later

[01:20:10,360]: It’s unrecognizable in what way

[01:20:13,680]: Businesses boarded up people gone

[01:20:17,780]: There was a very bustling

[01:20:18,800]: I work downtown that’s where WCCO was

[01:20:23,120]: And for 14 years no problem walking around downtown that was just part of life

[01:20:28,740]: Vibrant people out having lunch

[01:20:30,800]: It’s a ghost town downtown graffiti crime I can’t even begin to tell you

[01:20:39,580]: Even just yesterday an 11 year old boy shot in the middle of the day in a park killed

[01:20:45,460]: Something like that would never happen

[01:20:50,020]: And it’s daily weekly that these horrific things happen

[01:20:53,280]: They never even tracked carjackings in the city of Minneapolis before because they just maybe one a year

[01:20:59,880]: In the wake of Floyd there was I think 700 the year after

[01:21:04,480]: And it went from one to 700 in one year

[01:21:06,700]: In just a year

[01:21:09,120]: And again they have no cops

[01:21:12,760]: And you also have policies that have been so dramatically changed

[01:21:18,240]: It’s a use of force report basically that they have to fill out if you handcuff a person and arresting them

[01:21:23,620]: You have to call a supervisor to get permission

[01:21:26,280]: These are things that are now put in place

[01:21:28,820]: You have these violence interrupter groups that have taken over for the cops that are basically just seen sitting on their phones every day

[01:21:39,220]: And that’s where our tax dollars are going to pay for these groups

[01:21:43,060]: Many of them have connections to Keith Ellison

[01:21:46,160]: That’s documented

[01:21:50,320]: But when I say unrecognizable it’s almost even hard to explain how different life is in Minneapolis now

[01:21:57,340]: Do you go

[01:21:59,080]: I go for work

[01:22:01,640]: But even I was shooting some interviews in Minneapolis just recently

[01:22:07,450]: And it’s not uncommon to see crime for yourself happen just you know on the way

[01:22:14,320]: There’s a you know somebody down the street being held at gunpoint for their car

[01:22:19,580]: I mean I know I sound it sounds crazy but it really is like the wild wild west

[01:22:23,900]: There was a naked man that one of my friends captured on his cell phone having lunch in downtown Minneapolis just a naked guy walking around on the street

[01:22:36,860]: Drug deals happening

[01:22:38,100]: You can see them from above in some of the high rise buildings when people even do go

[01:22:44,600]: But it’s sad

[01:22:45,540]: It used to be a place where you’d go see a show

[01:22:48,240]: And certainly people are still doing that but not anywhere close to you know what it once what it was before

[01:22:55,180]: Five years ago

[01:22:55,920]: Right

[01:22:56,160]: This is not like in the 70s

[01:22:57,480]: This is five years ago

[01:22:59,500]: Right

[01:22:59,900]: Is there are there so I’ll just be totally blunt with you Liz I’m overwhelmed by what you’ve said

[01:23:04,900]: I’m really sad about it even though I’m not from there

[01:23:08,160]: Are there any signs of hope that this slide can be arrested that things can get better

[01:23:13,440]: You know I’m always a hopeful person and I think that’s why I did jump ship and wanted to play a part in telling the truth and join independent media

[01:23:25,860]: And I’ve definitely seen more people open their eyes

[01:23:30,100]: At least we’re willing to now have these conversations but when you have a political assassination that takes place and you’re just like how is this this isn’t the state that I grew up in

[01:23:43,160]: Again seems to be unrecognizable but I remain I remain hopeful because it really is it’s a beautiful state wonderful people made me who I am

[01:23:55,980]: And I think there are more of us than we realize

[01:23:59,640]: Sometimes you can feel a little bit out there and alone but there are more of us than we realize

[01:24:05,700]: Do you think there’s any chance that the normal people who are actually from unlike Jacob Frye from Minnesota like take their state back

[01:24:15,060]: Yeah I think that there are many people who even five years ago I mean I’ll just save doing the fall of Minneapolis

[01:24:21,600]: I mean I couldn’t even find a hairstylist or a makeup artist because this was crazy

[01:24:25,980]: If you could if you would be willing to tell the truth about this

[01:24:29,960]: You couldn’t find someone to do your hair

[01:24:32,040]: People were so people were so afraid to attach themselves to and it is completely different now

[01:24:37,760]: I mean if you see you know people are willing to step up and speak out now and that wasn’t the case

[01:24:44,540]: Whatever happened to Black Lives Matter

[01:24:45,860]: Do they still exist

[01:24:46,600]: Or they just run off with all the real estate and disappear

[01:24:48,600]: I think they yeah they came in made a bunch of money and left town

[01:24:53,940]: Are they working to improve the lives of Black people

[01:24:57,060]: I haven’t seen it in Minneapolis

[01:24:59,800]: Well they were the most famous group in the world there for a while

[01:25:03,420]: We had to like bow down before them and wash their feet and stuff

[01:25:06,020]: But they just they’re gone

[01:25:09,160]: Yeah I’ve always said that that’s the story right

[01:25:12,120]: Black lives sadly in Minneapolis have never mattered less

[01:25:16,360]: I mean this is they’ve become and many of them have reached out

[01:25:22,740]: I’ve done many stories

[01:25:24,280]: Their lives they want police back

[01:25:26,080]: They want protection

[01:25:27,900]: And they just they don’t have it anymore

[01:25:31,080]: Yeah and also it’s like it’s not even about black or white or it’s about America

[01:25:34,520]: And you don’t have a right to shoot people

[01:25:37,200]: You can’t do that

[01:25:38,360]: Whether you want your neighborhood wants police presence or not it’s kind of not up to you

[01:25:43,000]: We don’t put up with murder here because we’re a civilized country

[01:25:45,440]: That’s my view

[01:25:47,040]: Last question

[01:25:48,300]: If people are interested in following your reporting where do they find it

[01:25:51,860]: So thefallofminneapolis com is where you can go

[01:25:54,460]: More information about the book and the documentary is free

[01:25:56,360]: You can see it right there

[01:25:57,240]: And also we’ve done many follow up stories since on everything that’s taken place in Minneapolis

[01:26:01,880]: You’ll find it on that website

[01:26:02,840]: Liz Collin on X is where you can find my reporting and alphanews org a team of independent reporters in Minnesota working to uncover all of this

[01:26:13,320]: Bless you for doing it

[01:26:14,200]: I’m sure it’s thankless a lot of the time but I think it’s important to tell the truth whether it’s acknowledged as true at the time you are creating a documentary record that at the very least historians can assess to find out what really happened

[01:26:27,020]: And I just think objectively that matters

[01:26:28,940]: Like you want the truth out there

[01:26:30,120]: It’s a good thing always

[01:26:31,840]: Thank you Tucker

[01:26:32,180]: Thank you Liz Collin

[01:26:34,400]: I appreciate it

[01:26:35,100]: Thank you

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